Comments on: Email open rate, as useful as your appendix https://www.smartinsights.com/email-marketing/email-marketing-analytics/email-open-rate-as-useful-as-your-appendix/ Digital Marketing > The Marketing Strategy Blog Fri, 03 May 2013 19:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Shivachi https://www.smartinsights.com/email-marketing/email-marketing-analytics/email-open-rate-as-useful-as-your-appendix/#comment-11183 Fri, 03 May 2013 19:00:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=18384#comment-11183 In reply to Dave Chaffey.

I think that does help.
I will proceed as you advise and then track the performance and see.

Thanks Dave.

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By: Dave Chaffey https://www.smartinsights.com/email-marketing/email-marketing-analytics/email-open-rate-as-useful-as-your-appendix/#comment-11062 Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:40:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=18384#comment-11062 In reply to Shivachi.

Hi Sivachi,

That doesn’t sound right – are you tracking the clicks using an email package or using Google Analytics or similar. I recommend tracking the links in the enewsletter as explained here: http://www.smartinsights.com/email-marketing/email-marketing-analytics/email-campaign-tracking-with-google-analytics/

You can then setup an Advanced Segment in Google Analytics so that you are only reviewing traffic from email and no other channels, so should be more accurate.

Does that help?

Dave

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By: Shivachi https://www.smartinsights.com/email-marketing/email-marketing-analytics/email-open-rate-as-useful-as-your-appendix/#comment-11030 Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:43:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=18384#comment-11030 In reply to Dave Chaffey.

Hi Dave,
we send out a daily newsletter that has on average 6 products laid out on a single page. We then proceed to track the click rate for each product and accumulate this data over time.
However, we’ve noted something curious.

There seems to be no correlation between the popularity of a product as indicated by the clicks it receives and the revenue the product brings in or the number of buyers it attracts.
We’ve had some products perform dismally in terms of clicks yet attract a record number of buyers and vice versa.

My two questions are:
1. Is it wise to keep collecting this data?
2. How can we use this click rate data more meaningfully?

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By: Tim Watson https://www.smartinsights.com/email-marketing/email-marketing-analytics/email-open-rate-as-useful-as-your-appendix/#comment-6842 Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:59:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=18384#comment-6842 Related to this post about open rates I’ve posted an analysis of open rates against conversion rates here http://blog.emailvision.com/eng/open-rates-wrongly-predict-success-53-time

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By: Tim Watson https://www.smartinsights.com/email-marketing/email-marketing-analytics/email-open-rate-as-useful-as-your-appendix/#comment-6502 Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:17:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=18384#comment-6502 In reply to John Bollinger.

Hi John, I agree this is a possibility and inbox placement needs to be checked, as if that is indeed negatively affected by a high level of long term inactives then removing inactives is productive. For some clients have I removed deep inactive when this is exactly the case.

I didn’t make this clear enough perhaps in the post though I did point out the possible use of open rate “when identifying active addresses to solve deliverability problems”.

So to fully qualify I should say; don’t remove inactives unless you have inbox placement problem to resolve.

Thank you for picking this up and highlighting this.

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By: John Bollinger https://www.smartinsights.com/email-marketing/email-marketing-analytics/email-open-rate-as-useful-as-your-appendix/#comment-6501 Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:46:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=18384#comment-6501 One problem with your hypothesis in Case 1 is that inbox delivery rate is not considered when discussing list hygiene based on inactives. While eliminating inactives may cause missing out on possible sales from a “percentage of the apparently inactive customers” that come back each month, not eliminating inactive addresses has a far greater chance of negatively affecting a sender’s reputation by increasing invalids and complaint rates while diluting the open and click rates that are critical in maintaining a good reputation and good inbox delivery rates. Lost revenue from junk folder placement is much greater than gains from a few inactive customers coming back.

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By: Tim Watson https://www.smartinsights.com/email-marketing/email-marketing-analytics/email-open-rate-as-useful-as-your-appendix/#comment-6452 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:17:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=18384#comment-6452 In reply to SparkstoneTechnology.

Spot on, thanks for adding the comment, great to hear your clients are enlightened.

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By: Dave Chaffey https://www.smartinsights.com/email-marketing/email-marketing-analytics/email-open-rate-as-useful-as-your-appendix/#comment-6449 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:01:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=18384#comment-6449 In reply to Peter Massey.

Hi Peter, thanks for the suggestion. Not as such, it’s a good idea, but has probably been done many times before. I’m not sure how we’d put a different spin on it.
Have you seen this: http://www.smartinsights.com/managing-digital-marketing/the-inbound-marketing-process/ – think this is the nearest to what you’re describing?
Dave

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By: Peter Massey https://www.smartinsights.com/email-marketing/email-marketing-analytics/email-open-rate-as-useful-as-your-appendix/#comment-6446 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:40:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=18384#comment-6446 Hi Dave – have you blogged anything on “leaky buckets”? – An infographic to see % leakage & value leakage at every step from approach through click through conversion to conversation to converted sale to activated customer in one view. V powerful and gives marketeers ability to learn to match the level of effort at each stage to max thoughput all the way to revenue. And to do that with their sales colleagues as its one stream

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By: Dave Chaffey https://www.smartinsights.com/email-marketing/email-marketing-analytics/email-open-rate-as-useful-as-your-appendix/#comment-6439 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:54:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=18384#comment-6439 In reply to Jordie van Rijn.

Hi Jordie,

Yes that’s a good point and it shows where email open rates (and other KPIs) are useful – e.g. across webmail readers to show problems in deliverability or rendering or response rates across segment to show how your email is being responded to by different groups.
I think a lot of email systems aren’t good at encouraging review of segmented results. Anyone say which are the best = easiest to prompt and visualise this?
Dave

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